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5000QV
- by Fast Lane magazine
In the September 1986 issue of Fast Lane magazine, editor Peter Dron tested
a Countach 5000QV in Italy. The car was owned by ex-F1 driver Pierluigi Martini,
with fairly well run-in because he usually drove it to 320 kph (199mph) according
to the slightly optimistic speedometer. The following is the summary of that
report:
Lamborhgini
sells Countaches at a special discount to Grand Prix drivers, and that's one
reason why Pierluigi Martini has one. Keke Rosberg's pearl white car with big
tail wing is at the factory for a service. Martini's car does not have the wing
: neither he nor Lamborghini approves of it.
Firing
up the Countach from cold calls for a sequence of actions which almost form
a ritual. Switch on the ignition and wait for the ticking of the fuel pumps
to fade away. Turn the key further and you will know that the engine has started
even if you are deaf, from all the opening windows and the birds flying from
the trees. That ferocious, hungry growl, which you get only with multiple carburetters
on a multi-cylinder engine settles into a deep rumble. It is necessary to wait
a little longer for the various fluids to flow properly, particularly in the
gearbox, which initially feels as if it has seized.
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...
very positive gearchange and even if the movements through the slotted gate
are rather long, it's really a question of how quickly you can move your hand.
The Fichtel and Sachs clutch is very heavy, and being stuck in West End traffic
in a Countach late on a Friday afternoon must be an excellent exercise for building
up the thigh muscles ... this is something that you simply have to put up with,
but we did wonder about the unusual amount of force required of one's right
foot in initially depressing the throttle. It feels as if one is on the wrong
end of an over-centre situation, to coin a phrase. After that, throttle response
is miraculously smooth, every tiny movement eliciting a small answer from the
engine, which is what is needed in a car like this.
Although
maximum torque seems high up the range at 5,200 rpm, our acceleration figures
in top and fourth show that the curve must be a very flat one with, as we had
decided subjectively, with plenty from 3,000 rpm onwards, which means that this
engine has an unusually wide useable rev band, even for a big V12. Indeed, the
response to flooring the throttle at only 1,500rpm in top (about 36mph) is simply
instant, smooth, turbine-like acceleration, and the figures from 40mph onwards
are outstanding. ... The ratios are well spaced that pushing the throttle to
the floor in any gear at almost any speed produces the sort of acceleration
that really does force your neck backwards. If nobody told you that the brakes
were servo-assisted, you'd probably not suspect it: here's another useful muscle-toning
device ...

As
with the rest of the car, it's not just what the brakes do, but the way that
they do it that impresses. Repeated, punishing decelerations from extreme speeds
failed to melt the pads or boil the fluid. The was no signs of fade, no tugging
from side to side, no premature locking ...
You
then arrive at your first bend in the Countach, and its response to your actions
are so precise, and predictable, that you instantly feel that the car is working
for you, whereas in some rivals you feel that you are sitting on the back of
a wild animal, trying desperately to maintain the illusion of control.
The
first surprise is that the unassisted steering, rack and pinion, naturally,
is light in the straight ahead position even at very low speeds.... Turn into
a bend, the weight (steering) builds up. Always you can feel very easily where
the front wheels are pointing, and usually only a small amount of lock is required.
It is unnecessary to fight the steering.
With
an overall rubber contact patch unequalled by any other road car (the rear tyres
are 345/35VR15 on 12in rims, and the fronts are 225/50VR15 on 8.5in rims), it
is hardly surprising that dry road grip is outstanding. But roadholding is one
thing and overall handling another, and the more impressive aspects of Countach
are how well balanced it feels, how much true feel of the surface is fed to
the driver via the wheel and through the chassis, and how progressively and
predictably it responds to suggestions that it should change direction. Again,
it is working with the driver rather than against him.
No
doubt a Porsche 959 would leave a Countach floundering on a twisty route in
poor conditions, but that would not be so in the dry. The combination of more
than 450 horsepower and race-car-sized tyres demands a certain level of skill,
but that admitted, there are many cars with engines of lower output which are
more difficult to drive. (Note: say, a Porsche 911 Turbo)
In
a tight bend, it is possible to punch the tail out with a brutal and sustained
stamp on the throttle pedal. It isn't really necessary to indulge in such hooliganism,
and the joy of Countach is the way it can be made to flow through a series of
curves, with scarcely any perceptible roll.
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Getting
in and out of the Countach requires a special technique. You pull the catch,
and the door swings forwards and upwards to an angle of 45 degrees. Then you
sit on the very wide sill, in the gap formed by door, roof and door jamb. It
is not a big gap. After that, there are two alternative methods of gaining entry.
The first is to ease your body in first, dragging your legs through under the
steering wheel, trying not to entangle your feet in the pedals, and then to
squeeze through after them. It's not too difficult once you've got the hang
of it.
Surprisingly,
the space inside the car is not too bad, and it is considerably less cramped
than an Esprit (Lotus), for example; nor does it give the same claustrophobic
feeling. Even for tall drivers, there is about sufficient headroom, though it
is necessary to drive with knees bent ... the trimming is competently executed,
though it does not give that air of plush luxury that you find in an Aston Martin
or the crisp, modern and efficient environment of the latest Ferraris.
The
seats are of a true "bucket" design ... They offer good lateral location and
acceptably comfortable for journeys of moderate length ... The carpeted boot,
though by no means large, is not too bad for this type of car. The front lid
conceals a get-you-hom-if-you -aren't-arrested spare tyre, the battery, the
brake servo, and not much else.
Its
forward vision is acceptable when you get used to looking through that huge
pane of glass set in a shallow incline: ahead of you, it is just possible to
see the highest peaks of the front wheel arches, but you must guess where the
nose might be. At each side, there is a pattern of four small panes of glass.
One of these can be lowered - by a manual winder - and the theory is that you
can use it for paying autostrada tolls.
Reversing
a Countach in a confined space is a minor nightmare, and the preferred technique
seems to be to open the door and sit on the sill. This really is a car designed
for the open road, and once there, visibility is not a serious hindrance.
At
times in the past Lamborghini's standards of finish were perhaps not as high
as might be wished, but now, with greater financial security, a new atmosphere
of confidence in the factory, excellent working conditions and very well developed
product, those standards have risen considerably. The Countach is as beautiful
close up as it is from the other side of the street, and the panel fits are
particularly impressive.
It
is a crazy vision made into reality. It costs a fortune. It is totally impractical.
There is no way that buying it could be justified by any rational argument,
but if you are a true car enthusiast and immensely wealthy, you will feel obligued
to ignore all those sensible, puritanical, 'realistic' mumblings from one side
of your brain, and listen to the other side shouting 'Countach!' There never
has been anything quite like it, and probably there never will be again. Perhaps
the Germans make the best cars in the world, but the Italians make the most
exciting, most outrageous and most marvellous one, and this is it. Countach
!
5000QV
- Summary from all sources
Engine:
" Marvellous noise of a V12 on full song" - Autocar
commenting LP400.
" This engine has an unusually wide useable rev band, even for a big V12. Indeed,
the response to flooring the throttle at only 1,500rpm in top is simply instant,
smooth, turbine-like acceleration." - Fast Lane.
Steering and cornering:
" ... mild understeer....Yet for a mid-engine car with rearward weight bias,
we found the Countach to be surprisingly good in the skidpad drop-throttle test.
The tail stepped out moderately, and thereafter was very easy to catch and gather
up." - Road & Track
" However, you then arrive at your first bend in the Countach, and its responses
to your actions are so precise, and predictable, that you instantly feel that
the car is working for you." - Fast Lane
" But what told most was its superb capability over high speed bumps and its
marvellous handling balance. It turned best,, it stayed flat under serious provocation,
it braked without dive and it steered quickly and with precision. It behaved
as many of the people who take pure track cars there would one day like their
machinery to behave." - CAR
Controls:
" The Countach is tremendous fun to drive. All of its control inputs have a
hard, heavy feel that borders on crudeness." - Road & Track
" The Fichtel and Sachs clutch is very heavy" - Fast Lane
" Its heavy steering, gearchange and pedal efforts - and its compact driving
position - suited the extreme loads of hard driving." - CAR
Transmission:
" The ratios are so well spaced that pushing the throttle to the floor in any
gear at almost any speed produces the sort of acceleration that really does
force your neck backwards" - Fast Lane
Brakes:
" The brakes are powerful, easily modulated, with very good feel" - Road
& Track.
" If no body told you that the brakes were servo-assisted, you'd probably not
suspect it" - Fast Lane.
Cockpit:
" Inside, the dominating thing about the Countach is a lack of headroom and
visibility. If you're more than about 5ft 10in, you have to slouch in the seat,
bum forward, knees high, head retracted into the shoulders as far as is comfortable."
- CAR
" The split door glass rolls down only enough to slip a Wendy's single through"
- Car and Driver
" Getting in and out of the Countach requires a special technique." - Fast
Lane
" Don't look back !" - Road & Track commentating the rearward
vision.
Countach
QV vs Ferrari Testarossa

"The
fastest road-going sports car has to be a Ferrari", this is what Ferrari boss
Giovanni Razelli ever said. In that side of Group B limited production super
expensive, Maranello already had a GTO. In this side of production supercar,
it launched Testarossa in 1985 as a Countach-beater. Targeting directly at the
Countach, Testarossa was undoubtedly the greatest arch-rival to Countach. Its
4942 c.c. 48-valve 12 cylinders boxer engine was Ferrari's response to Countach
QV's 5167 c.c. 48-valve V12. Although the prancing horse had "only" 390 hp on
tap, versus Countach's claimed 455 hp, its drag coefficient of 0.36 was better
than Countach's 0.42. Both cars were mid-engined, heavyweight and very wide,
also priced at the same level.
Road
tests found the Countach was more accelerative - from standstill to 60 mph it
was 0.4 sec quicker - due to more power and 400 lbs less weight. Testarossa
won back at top speed - 181 mph was easily achieveable by most magazines, and
the best record I know was 184 mph. However, how did these two supercars compare
in a real face-to-face contest? CAR magazine did such a test in April 1986,
which is summarised and reproduced in below.
Comparison
- by CAR magazine
Did
the Countach's heavy controls constitute a big problem in long term or long
distance use ? Had the obvious effort Ferrari had put into simplifying their
car's controls damaged its character ? Did Lamborghini's poor driving position
interfere with one's enjoyment of it ? Did it really drink petrol to the extent
it seemed to ? And which of the pair was quickest in tough conditions like Castle
Combe's ? We had two days to find out ....
The
Ferrari Testarossa is a wholly smoother, more modern, more aerodynamic machine
than the Lambo. It shows immediately in the drag factors : the Ferrari's is
reasonable at 0.36, the Lambo's is an almost unmentionable 0.42 (without the
wing, which must make it a lot worse). What strikes you as soon as you see the
Countach and Testarossa in company is the greater size of the Maranello car.
It is nearly a foot longer at 177in, 2.0in longer in wheelbase at 100.4in, nearly
400 lb heavier, more than 2.0in higher, similar in front track but nearly two
inches wider in rear track. It is a big, big car ....
The
Ferrari gives 16 mpg in places where you will get only 12 mpg for the Lambo
....
The
Testarossa is such a civilised car. It has a fairly soft ride which we felt
was let down at times by extremes of surface roar and bump-thump....you could
hope for stiffer damping - and in the corners you are surprisingly aware of
the car's body roll. But the pay-off is a level of comfort to your progress
that won't be found in other exotic cars ....
The
steering is less direct than the Lambo's but provides a decent turning circle,
which combined with the excellent visibility (about the best there is in a mid-engined
car), gives the Testarossa a real town capability. The brakes are light to use,
too, but overservoed ....

The
gearchange isn't exactly foolproof. It moves fluently about its open gate with
the characteristic "ker-snap" of other machines which use the same system ....
The clutch matches the rest of the car's efforts ; it is light but a trifle
woolly ....
Inside,
the Testarossa is a leather lover's paradise .... the leather bucket seats are
comfortable and supportive, and their power adjustment combines well with the
tilt-adjust steering column, to give a wide variety of driving positions. The
car suits people of far above average height and there is plenty of legroom,
too ....
The
Lamborghini is the more spectacular looking car of the two - we have the reactions
of the crowds who surrounded it every time it stopped, to go by. Invariably
there would be a clump of half a dozen people gathered around the Lambo, discussing
its outlandish lines. The Ferrari, in this company, rated hardly a glance ....
Inside, the dominating thing about the Countach is a lack of headroom and visibility.
If you're more than about 5ft 10in, you have to slouch in the seat, bum forward,
knees high, head retracted into the shoulders as far as is comfortable ....
Shiny black leather was the main trimming material of the car and it just looked
cheap, despite its undoubtedly hideous cost.
This,
to be fair, is hardly the point of the Countach's excellence. The point of the
Countach is the way it goes when driven at top speed, maximum effort, full noise.
At Castle Combe, we found the Lamborghini's conclusive point of superiority.
Both
cars did well. The Countach felt instantly at home, its heavy steering, gearchange
and pedals efforts - and its compact driving position - suited the extreme loads
of hard driving. But what told most was its superb capability over high speed
bumps and its marvellous handling balance. It turned best, it stayed flat under
serious provocation, it braked without dive and it steered quickly and with
precision. It behaved as many of the people who take pure track cars there would
one day like their machinery to behave.
All
around was noise, of course .... the Lamborghini Countach is quicker, better
handling, better braked, and nicer to drive .... After that, the Testarossa
felt like a Ford Fiesta. Efforts required were light, it made less noise. It
offered a nice, upright driving position and seemed almost airy in comparison
with the Lamborghini. It rode better, too, but its steering didn't have the
bite, it understeered more. Its seats lacked the proper degree of lateral support
for maximum effort corners, and its brakes felt a little spongy after very much
work. Its areas of clear superiority were its gearchange, not nearly as heavy
as the Lambo's and twice as slick, and its engine throttle response. That by
a whisker.
"
But such a confrontation requires a decision, and it's quite easy to make. The
Ferrari is probably the best car of the two, but the Lamborghini is undoubtedly
the Greatest."

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