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5000QV - by Fast Lane magazine
In the September 1986 issue of Fast Lane magazine, editor Peter Dron tested a Countach 5000QV in Italy. The car was owned by ex-F1 driver Pierluigi Martini, with fairly well run-in because he usually drove it to 320 kph (199mph) according to the slightly optimistic speedometer. The following is the summary of that report:

Lamborhgini sells Countaches at a special discount to Grand Prix drivers, and that's one reason why Pierluigi Martini has one. Keke Rosberg's pearl white car with big tail wing is at the factory for a service. Martini's car does not have the wing : neither he nor Lamborghini approves of it.

Firing up the Countach from cold calls for a sequence of actions which almost form a ritual. Switch on the ignition and wait for the ticking of the fuel pumps to fade away. Turn the key further and you will know that the engine has started even if you are deaf, from all the opening windows and the birds flying from the trees. That ferocious, hungry growl, which you get only with multiple carburetters on a multi-cylinder engine settles into a deep rumble. It is necessary to wait a little longer for the various fluids to flow properly, particularly in the gearbox, which initially feels as if it has seized.

5000 QV - 5000 QV

... very positive gearchange and even if the movements through the slotted gate are rather long, it's really a question of how quickly you can move your hand. The Fichtel and Sachs clutch is very heavy, and being stuck in West End traffic in a Countach late on a Friday afternoon must be an excellent exercise for building up the thigh muscles ... this is something that you simply have to put up with, but we did wonder about the unusual amount of force required of one's right foot in initially depressing the throttle. It feels as if one is on the wrong end of an over-centre situation, to coin a phrase. After that, throttle response is miraculously smooth, every tiny movement eliciting a small answer from the engine, which is what is needed in a car like this.

Although maximum torque seems high up the range at 5,200 rpm, our acceleration figures in top and fourth show that the curve must be a very flat one with, as we had decided subjectively, with plenty from 3,000 rpm onwards, which means that this engine has an unusually wide useable rev band, even for a big V12. Indeed, the response to flooring the throttle at only 1,500rpm in top (about 36mph) is simply instant, smooth, turbine-like acceleration, and the figures from 40mph onwards are outstanding. ... The ratios are well spaced that pushing the throttle to the floor in any gear at almost any speed produces the sort of acceleration that really does force your neck backwards. If nobody told you that the brakes were servo-assisted, you'd probably not suspect it: here's another useful muscle-toning device ...

5000 QV on the track

As with the rest of the car, it's not just what the brakes do, but the way that they do it that impresses. Repeated, punishing decelerations from extreme speeds failed to melt the pads or boil the fluid. The was no signs of fade, no tugging from side to side, no premature locking ...

You then arrive at your first bend in the Countach, and its response to your actions are so precise, and predictable, that you instantly feel that the car is working for you, whereas in some rivals you feel that you are sitting on the back of a wild animal, trying desperately to maintain the illusion of control.

The first surprise is that the unassisted steering, rack and pinion, naturally, is light in the straight ahead position even at very low speeds.... Turn into a bend, the weight (steering) builds up. Always you can feel very easily where the front wheels are pointing, and usually only a small amount of lock is required. It is unnecessary to fight the steering.

With an overall rubber contact patch unequalled by any other road car (the rear tyres are 345/35VR15 on 12in rims, and the fronts are 225/50VR15 on 8.5in rims), it is hardly surprising that dry road grip is outstanding. But roadholding is one thing and overall handling another, and the more impressive aspects of Countach are how well balanced it feels, how much true feel of the surface is fed to the driver via the wheel and through the chassis, and how progressively and predictably it responds to suggestions that it should change direction. Again, it is working with the driver rather than against him.

No doubt a Porsche 959 would leave a Countach floundering on a twisty route in poor conditions, but that would not be so in the dry. The combination of more than 450 horsepower and race-car-sized tyres demands a certain level of skill, but that admitted, there are many cars with engines of lower output which are more difficult to drive. (Note: say, a Porsche 911 Turbo)

In a tight bend, it is possible to punch the tail out with a brutal and sustained stamp on the throttle pedal. It isn't really necessary to indulge in such hooliganism, and the joy of Countach is the way it can be made to flow through a series of curves, with scarcely any perceptible roll.

Countach Interior - Countach Interior

Getting in and out of the Countach requires a special technique. You pull the catch, and the door swings forwards and upwards to an angle of 45 degrees. Then you sit on the very wide sill, in the gap formed by door, roof and door jamb. It is not a big gap. After that, there are two alternative methods of gaining entry. The first is to ease your body in first, dragging your legs through under the steering wheel, trying not to entangle your feet in the pedals, and then to squeeze through after them. It's not too difficult once you've got the hang of it.

Surprisingly, the space inside the car is not too bad, and it is considerably less cramped than an Esprit (Lotus), for example; nor does it give the same claustrophobic feeling. Even for tall drivers, there is about sufficient headroom, though it is necessary to drive with knees bent ... the trimming is competently executed, though it does not give that air of plush luxury that you find in an Aston Martin or the crisp, modern and efficient environment of the latest Ferraris.

The seats are of a true "bucket" design ... They offer good lateral location and acceptably comfortable for journeys of moderate length ... The carpeted boot, though by no means large, is not too bad for this type of car. The front lid conceals a get-you-hom-if-you -aren't-arrested spare tyre, the battery, the brake servo, and not much else.

Its forward vision is acceptable when you get used to looking through that huge pane of glass set in a shallow incline: ahead of you, it is just possible to see the highest peaks of the front wheel arches, but you must guess where the nose might be. At each side, there is a pattern of four small panes of glass. One of these can be lowered - by a manual winder - and the theory is that you can use it for paying autostrada tolls.

Reversing a Countach in a confined space is a minor nightmare, and the preferred technique seems to be to open the door and sit on the sill. This really is a car designed for the open road, and once there, visibility is not a serious hindrance.

At times in the past Lamborghini's standards of finish were perhaps not as high as might be wished, but now, with greater financial security, a new atmosphere of confidence in the factory, excellent working conditions and very well developed product, those standards have risen considerably. The Countach is as beautiful close up as it is from the other side of the street, and the panel fits are particularly impressive.

It is a crazy vision made into reality. It costs a fortune. It is totally impractical. There is no way that buying it could be justified by any rational argument, but if you are a true car enthusiast and immensely wealthy, you will feel obligued to ignore all those sensible, puritanical, 'realistic' mumblings from one side of your brain, and listen to the other side shouting 'Countach!' There never has been anything quite like it, and probably there never will be again. Perhaps the Germans make the best cars in the world, but the Italians make the most exciting, most outrageous and most marvellous one, and this is it. Countach !


5000QV - Summary from all sources
Engine:
" Marvellous noise of a V12 on full song" - Autocar commenting LP400.
" This engine has an unusually wide useable rev band, even for a big V12. Indeed, the response to flooring the throttle at only 1,500rpm in top is simply instant, smooth, turbine-like acceleration." - Fast Lane.
Steering and cornering:
" ... mild understeer....Yet for a mid-engine car with rearward weight bias, we found the Countach to be surprisingly good in the skidpad drop-throttle test. The tail stepped out moderately, and thereafter was very easy to catch and gather up." - Road & Track
" However, you then arrive at your first bend in the Countach, and its responses to your actions are so precise, and predictable, that you instantly feel that the car is working for you." - Fast Lane
" But what told most was its superb capability over high speed bumps and its marvellous handling balance. It turned best,, it stayed flat under serious provocation, it braked without dive and it steered quickly and with precision. It behaved as many of the people who take pure track cars there would one day like their machinery to behave." - CAR
Controls:
" The Countach is tremendous fun to drive. All of its control inputs have a hard, heavy feel that borders on crudeness." - Road & Track
" The Fichtel and Sachs clutch is very heavy" - Fast Lane
" Its heavy steering, gearchange and pedal efforts - and its compact driving position - suited the extreme loads of hard driving." - CAR
Transmission:
" The ratios are so well spaced that pushing the throttle to the floor in any gear at almost any speed produces the sort of acceleration that really does force your neck backwards" - Fast Lane
Brakes:
" The brakes are powerful, easily modulated, with very good feel" - Road & Track.
" If no body told you that the brakes were servo-assisted, you'd probably not suspect it" - Fast Lane.
Cockpit:
" Inside, the dominating thing about the Countach is a lack of headroom and visibility. If you're more than about 5ft 10in, you have to slouch in the seat, bum forward, knees high, head retracted into the shoulders as far as is comfortable." - CAR
" The split door glass rolls down only enough to slip a Wendy's single through" - Car and Driver
" Getting in and out of the Countach requires a special technique." - Fast Lane
" Don't look back !" - Road & Track commentating the rearward vision.


Countach QV vs Ferrari Testarossa

Countach v Testarossa

"The fastest road-going sports car has to be a Ferrari", this is what Ferrari boss Giovanni Razelli ever said. In that side of Group B limited production super expensive, Maranello already had a GTO. In this side of production supercar, it launched Testarossa in 1985 as a Countach-beater. Targeting directly at the Countach, Testarossa was undoubtedly the greatest arch-rival to Countach. Its 4942 c.c. 48-valve 12 cylinders boxer engine was Ferrari's response to Countach QV's 5167 c.c. 48-valve V12. Although the prancing horse had "only" 390 hp on tap, versus Countach's claimed 455 hp, its drag coefficient of 0.36 was better than Countach's 0.42. Both cars were mid-engined, heavyweight and very wide, also priced at the same level.

Road tests found the Countach was more accelerative - from standstill to 60 mph it was 0.4 sec quicker - due to more power and 400 lbs less weight. Testarossa won back at top speed - 181 mph was easily achieveable by most magazines, and the best record I know was 184 mph. However, how did these two supercars compare in a real face-to-face contest? CAR magazine did such a test in April 1986, which is summarised and reproduced in below.

Comparison - by CAR magazine

Did the Countach's heavy controls constitute a big problem in long term or long distance use ? Had the obvious effort Ferrari had put into simplifying their car's controls damaged its character ? Did Lamborghini's poor driving position interfere with one's enjoyment of it ? Did it really drink petrol to the extent it seemed to ? And which of the pair was quickest in tough conditions like Castle Combe's ? We had two days to find out ....

The Ferrari Testarossa is a wholly smoother, more modern, more aerodynamic machine than the Lambo. It shows immediately in the drag factors : the Ferrari's is reasonable at 0.36, the Lambo's is an almost unmentionable 0.42 (without the wing, which must make it a lot worse). What strikes you as soon as you see the Countach and Testarossa in company is the greater size of the Maranello car. It is nearly a foot longer at 177in, 2.0in longer in wheelbase at 100.4in, nearly 400 lb heavier, more than 2.0in higher, similar in front track but nearly two inches wider in rear track. It is a big, big car ....

The Ferrari gives 16 mpg in places where you will get only 12 mpg for the Lambo ....

The Testarossa is such a civilised car. It has a fairly soft ride which we felt was let down at times by extremes of surface roar and bump-thump....you could hope for stiffer damping - and in the corners you are surprisingly aware of the car's body roll. But the pay-off is a level of comfort to your progress that won't be found in other exotic cars ....

The steering is less direct than the Lambo's but provides a decent turning circle, which combined with the excellent visibility (about the best there is in a mid-engined car), gives the Testarossa a real town capability. The brakes are light to use, too, but overservoed ....

Countach v Testarossa

The gearchange isn't exactly foolproof. It moves fluently about its open gate with the characteristic "ker-snap" of other machines which use the same system .... The clutch matches the rest of the car's efforts ; it is light but a trifle woolly ....

Inside, the Testarossa is a leather lover's paradise .... the leather bucket seats are comfortable and supportive, and their power adjustment combines well with the tilt-adjust steering column, to give a wide variety of driving positions. The car suits people of far above average height and there is plenty of legroom, too ....

The Lamborghini is the more spectacular looking car of the two - we have the reactions of the crowds who surrounded it every time it stopped, to go by. Invariably there would be a clump of half a dozen people gathered around the Lambo, discussing its outlandish lines. The Ferrari, in this company, rated hardly a glance ....

Inside, the dominating thing about the Countach is a lack of headroom and visibility. If you're more than about 5ft 10in, you have to slouch in the seat, bum forward, knees high, head retracted into the shoulders as far as is comfortable .... Shiny black leather was the main trimming material of the car and it just looked cheap, despite its undoubtedly hideous cost.

This, to be fair, is hardly the point of the Countach's excellence. The point of the Countach is the way it goes when driven at top speed, maximum effort, full noise. At Castle Combe, we found the Lamborghini's conclusive point of superiority.

Both cars did well. The Countach felt instantly at home, its heavy steering, gearchange and pedals efforts - and its compact driving position - suited the extreme loads of hard driving. But what told most was its superb capability over high speed bumps and its marvellous handling balance. It turned best, it stayed flat under serious provocation, it braked without dive and it steered quickly and with precision. It behaved as many of the people who take pure track cars there would one day like their machinery to behave.

All around was noise, of course .... the Lamborghini Countach is quicker, better handling, better braked, and nicer to drive .... After that, the Testarossa felt like a Ford Fiesta. Efforts required were light, it made less noise. It offered a nice, upright driving position and seemed almost airy in comparison with the Lamborghini. It rode better, too, but its steering didn't have the bite, it understeered more. Its seats lacked the proper degree of lateral support for maximum effort corners, and its brakes felt a little spongy after very much work. Its areas of clear superiority were its gearchange, not nearly as heavy as the Lambo's and twice as slick, and its engine throttle response. That by a whisker.

" But such a confrontation requires a decision, and it's quite easy to make. The Ferrari is probably the best car of the two, but the Lamborghini is undoubtedly the Greatest."

Bella

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